I spoke to The Economist‘s Adam O’Neal for his piece on Kevin McCarthy’s ouster as Speaker and the implications for the House broadly and Ukraine funding specifically.

The immediate task will be funding the government. The deal to avert a shutdown keeps the government going with a “continuing resolution” (cR) only until November 17th. A Republican strategist, Liam Donovan, reckons Mr Gaetz might be satisfied with Mr McCarthy gone, but other hardliners will not easily accept a long-term funding solution simply because a fresh face is running the House. Government will have to be funded “in a way that is even more anathema to these Republicans than the CR,” Mr Donovan says. Mr McCarthy’s replacement could soon be overseeing a shutdown. Averting a closure could potentially cost the new speaker his job.

Read the full piece ($) here.

I spoke to Aaron Blake for his Washington Post piece on the complicated dynamic between Speaker McCarthy’s fate, Matt Gaetz’s gambit, and the House Democrats who face a choice between the two.

Republican strategist Liam Donovan said significant concessions are so unlikely that seeking them would essentially just serve to build the rationale for Democrats to join with the likes of Gaetz in ousting McCarthy. He said the real question is whether Gaetz can marshal the support to oust McCarthy, and the choice for Democrats is between taking McCarthy out and letting Republicans continue to turn on one another.

“Any quid pro quo is a non-starter,” Donovan said. “It’s simply not tenable for McCarthy to be seen as bargaining with Democrats to secure his job. Gaetz knows this, which is precisely why he engineered this situation.”

Read the full piece here.